Friday, February 21, 2020

Boilers and Radiators


You know how when you plan a big home renovation you know it is going to be totally worth it, but know before you get to the amazing finish there will be chaos, many decisions, hard work and furniture moving? And when you emerge, slightly frazzled and very much poorer, after the whole ordeal and say "Yes, it was worth!", but that was a LOT of hard work!! Whew! (It amazes me I always forget this! Lol!)
That is where I am right now. Recovery mode. 
We absolutely love our hot water heat!! It is heavenly! My allergies are great! The upstairs is warmer than we anticipated!(One problem we were hoping to solve.) It really is a dream for an old un-insulated house. We cannot tell what the weather is like outside anymore. (Old house dwellers, you will know what I mean. The it-feels-slightly-more-drafty-then-usual-must-be-windy-outside. Or yep-temps-are-falling-the-corners-are-colder.) We feel insulated! It is so even, no warm or cold air drifting around the house.

To get to this heavenly warm bliss took four months, quite a few late nights and several long Saturdays. And we had a blast! Thank the Lord for family. My younger brother was as intrigued by the idea of retro-fitting hot water heat as I was! 

It is hard to know where to even start! Two years ago I bought a house full of radiator, which had been waiting in the garage. We measured each radiator and figured the btu's, then spent several weeks discussing which radiator would work for which room and where to put it. We finally decided we needed two more small ones for the bedrooms, which we were able to find at a radiator salvage place in Duluth, MN.

This summer I worked on scraping and painting the radiators, which I posted about HERE and then Mandy and I removed all the old duct work, which you can read about 
HERE. So glad we don't have to do that again! Yuck!

The next week we started plumbing in the supply lines and install radiators! This is the one in my room. 
The project ended up falling into three phases: Phase #1- installing main supplies and returns, installing boiler, installing downstairs bedrooms and bathroom radiator, Phase #2- Switching dinning room radiator and moving living room radiator, Phase #3 piping in and installing upstairs radiator.

Lots of big pipes! We used 2" black iron for the supply and return lines. Then 1 1/2" and 1" pipes depending on the size of the radiator. Thankfully the brother had plenty of muscle to screw them all together! I stuck with organizing all the different sized fitting, handing tools and putting Teflon tape and pipe paste on fittings.

We installed the main supply and returns, the piping to both bedrooms and the bathroom. This is the bathroom radiator above. In floor radiant heat 1920's style! This style of radiator was made to fit perfectly between floor joints or you could hang it on the wall. They knew how to make the most of small spaces back then! The kitchen radiator was also pipped and installed. We couldn't install the dining room radiator or the living room as we had to do a little shifting around, which I will explain later. For the radiator upstairs in Mandy's room we added tees and valves and figured out where the pipes would run, but her radiator was phase #3! So that comes later! 

Finally the day before Thanksgiving the boiler arrived! It took a few weeks before it was up and running, but as soon as we could we connected it to the kitchen, bedrooms and bathroom radiator and fired it up! At this point we had part of the house running off the boiler and the living and dining room running off the hot water heater. But not for long!


We made sure to put plenty of gauges in! I love running down and checking the pressure and temperatures. This also helps us know if the system is running correctly and efficiently. Because we used old radiators we have also ready had a couple of issues with clogs in the system. (We think a mouse was eyeing up a radiator for a winter nest! Lots of debris floating around the system. Thankfully we have a strainer before water goes back into the boiler.)
Whew! That was the end of Phase #1! Just in time for a cold snap!


On to Phase #2 which required a couple of strong guys to move the radiator currently under the living room window upstairs! We were all a little apprehensive, but guys were pros and it was up the stairs and in it's new home in seven minutes. Then they moved a slightly larger radiator from the garage into the living, but hold on... Is that a hole in the floor?!?
It just so happened that there was an old cold air return right where the legs of the radiator was going to sit! I was prepared and had some salvaged oak flooring (from the elder brother) handy to patch it up.

Can you believe that is the hole? I can't take credit for this one, the brother did most of the work. But I have two more to do, so hopefully I can post a couple of tips. It really helps to have old wood floor boards that match your floor color! I was really surprised how well they matched. I think it helps that the floors and the patched boards all have shellac on them!

Before those radiator hauling guys left, we also had them move this giant radiator from the corner of the kitchen/dining room/hallway to the other side of the kitchen doorway. We had originally put it next to the hallway because we knew it would help heat the bedrooms and because there was an old heat vent we could run the temporary pex piping down. Moving it heats the dining room more evenly and prevents the bedrooms from getting over heated now that they have their own radiators. 
The radiator placement was the most discussed. Should it be centered on the wall? Should we leave it next to the doorway? We finally decided to put it in the corner which would leave enough room for a piece of furniture next too it.

As you can see, we ended up moving almost all the furniture in the dining room and living around! I will post about that later.
That was also the finish of Phase #2.


On to Phase #3! Once the radiator was upstairs we just had to get pipes up. After the a lot of figuring and measuring we decided the best way was to run the pipes up along the corner of the entry next to the coat hooks. We would leave these pipes exposed as we knew that was not 4" thick, it was only 2". (Once I paint the pipes, they will look like they have been there a hundred years!) 

But the only way to get across the room was to run the pipes inside the floor, so we had to cut a hole in the entry ceiling. Nothing I can't fix, but it is always sad (and messy!) cutting into plaster! This was the last phase of the project and we were so ready to get it done! Maybe this project has more than three phases? Phase #4 is cleaning up. Can't wait for spring to give the basement a good clean out! It is disastrous! In the mean time, I can work on plaster and floor patching and trim patching....

In case you are curious, here is a break down in costs. It is such a different project, we didn't really have a good idea what it was all going to cost.

1100 sq. ft house with 8 radiators
9 radiators from Craig's list - $400
2 radiators from Northland Radiator in Duluth, MN - $300
boiler - $3000
pipes, fititngs, valves - $3000
Total - $6700

I love these radiators! And I am so grateful my brother was willing to tackle this project with me! At times it was a family project as occasionally the only way he could find available time was to bring the kids along. It made for a fun family circus! And I hope we have instilled a little renovation love into the next generation!

Let me know if you have any questions friends, I would love to talk more about my hot water heat!

Friday, December 20, 2019

Merry Christmas 2019!

Merry Christmas Friends! 
I didn't want 2019 to slip away with out at lest one Christmas post! With all the boiler/pipe fitting/radiator work going on this year, I had to quickly come to terms that not all the usual decorating was going to get done quickly. So it has been a slow arrival of Christmas at this house!
I am still not sure if I am really ready for Christmas this year! (At lest I got all the handmade gifts done!)





My one crafty decoration this year was this wreath for the dining room window! I love the little bottle brush trees! (from Hobby Lobby, in the decorative picks aisle) I also bought a pick with the plastic red ornaments which I took apart and glued on  The Shiny Brites are so pretty on a wreath, but I was worried about storing them. So every year I have removed them from the wreath before packing it all up. This year I needed an easy look! 


Kinda hard to photograph! But so sparkly in person!

 For the last several years we have added this sleigh full of elves to the top of the refridgerator. Sometimes their seats are a little precarious and they like to come see what is in the fridge with us!

And a little Christmas Shiny Brites for the kitchen shelves! My sister found the milk glass candy dish for me. The minute I saw it, I thought it needed to be filled with Shiny Brites!

I was so excited to find this little bottle brush tree matched one of my vintage cards!

 These bells looked so vintage to me, I just had to get them from JoAnn Fabrics. I didn't really know what to do with them, so they ended up on my dressing table mirror! I love how the bring out the touches of red in my vintage cards.

This is my other Christmas crafty project! Another quilted stocking, which might not get finished before Christmas. Lol! I loved the stocking hanging on the dining room radiator, so decided I needed one to match my bedroom!

Wishing you all a lovely Christmas!

Tuesday, October 29, 2019

Happy Anniversary and Have-Done-List 2019

 Can you believe it has been 7 years since I bought this little house! My goodness, what a journey. I remember the excited mix of terror that day I signed the paperwork. I was a bit frazzled already with the whole buying experience! But oh the excitement! It was a three year dream come true! And I am so grateful all of the things this house has taught me.

I snapped this very autumnal picture this morning as I was driving off to work. I was excited it was a new angle!

We had a cold rain come through on Sunday and a good portion of the leaves are now on the ground. There is snow forecasted for tonight, so it looks like it is now raking season!

This is the first picture I ever took of the house. The official "Before" photo. She looks rather sad. Even though we haven't really changed a lot on the exterior, one can always see the "happy and loved" feel of a house! 


This year is has been all about getting the hydronic heat and radiators installed. So not much in the way of other projects. I did re-paint the bathroom and back hall (HERE). Otherwise most the project time was taken up with radiators or paint projects for the brothers.

We got a good start on installing the radiators the other weekend! My bedroom and Mom's bedroom radiators are installed. The main supply and return lines are also installed. I think we are about halfway there!

Except for the absence of fifty layers of paint, you can't tell it hasn't been here a hundred years!

Friday, October 18, 2019

Radiator Love & Ductwork

With fall coming on fast, this past month I knew I had to get my radiators ready to install! All summer I have been slowly working away on them. The definitely needed a little love!

 This one was by far in the worst shape! (This one is also one of the smallest ones and goes in parent's bedroom.) It took a full day of scraping and brushing with wire brushes to remove all the flaky paint.

Oh those details!!

 I did a bunch of research on what to paint radiators and how to clean up these beauties. From what I gathered (and shifted!), wire brushing followed by a good rinse and a through towel dry was the preferred method. I tried using a wire brush attached to a drill was unable to control it to my satisfaction. So I used a variety wire brushes by hand and called it good. 

I then sprayed them with oil based primer for metal. Only two of the eight radiators to be installed were scraped down and primed. All the others had paint in quite good condition.

 After research I decided to go with my favorite Sherwin Williams trim paint, Pro Classic Alkyd Interior Enamel. There was quite a bit of feed back online about oil based paints/automotive/metal paints off gasses once the radiators warmed up. And since I knew we were going to be installing and using the radiators right away, I didn't want to have off gassing issues. 
Plus, most the radiators were already painted with interior paint and it seemed to be hold up fine!

And here they are with a fresh coat of trim paint! Thank goodness for brothers with spray guns! Or I might have been at it all year!

 The Alkyd Enamel goes on really nice with a spray gun and one coat did the trick. Now they are ready to install! 


That also meant we were ready for the next step. In order to install the hydronic pipes we had to first take out all the old duct work. A job we were not looking forward to!
Since we were worried about allergen getting everywhere we covered everything in plastic sheeting. Looks a bit spooky!

We then carefully detached sections of the duct work sealing the ends with plastic before taking them outside. It was quite a pile!

So much more room now! 
After all the ducts were out, we vacuumed and mopped the floors. And I am happy to say, I did not have any allergy attacks during or after the project! So I guess we did something right! (Of course, I wore a respirator and goggles while taking the ducts down and as soon as we were done cleaning up I took a shower.)

 Now we are finally ready to start installing the hydronics! This weekend we are hoping to at lest get part of it in. Winter is not that far off!


I am really excited about the little thin radiator that goes under the bathroom floor! In-floor heating 1920s style!